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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, this is the unit I hope to join in the future and I was just curious to know
If the majority of the members wear berets or mk helmets and if it's prefered if you have a British smock camo jacket over others?

Sorry if these questions don't fit this topic.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the members, if not all, have a smock. It is something of a personal preference though. If you just wanted to get the wools that is fine, but if you intend to game in it you should go for the smock. The same can be said for the Helmet and Beret, although most of us have both as well.

I'm just curious where are you located? Are you interested in attending living history, games, or both?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, thanks for your response and im currently located in toronto and I'm
very interested in attending games and living history though I am alittle confused
to what that is.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Airsoft Enthusiast wrote:
Hi, thanks for your response and im currently located in toronto and I'm
very interested in attending games and living history though I am alittle confused
to what that is.


This is one of the living history events we do.

http://ontarioairsoftwwiireenactors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1603

We set up our gear and equipment for the public to see. Talk to vets and people about the war. Trying to keep history alive


Have a look here (if you havenít already) you can tell what ones are airsoft or living history (sometimes reenactments)

http://ontarioairsoftwwiireenactors.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=17&sid=2ab12df3eb91b4b429dfda673c752d9a
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would see British airborne troops in action without smocks occasionally, but it was very exceptional. As elite troops they were very conscious of the special uniform items that denoted their unique status and displayed them whenever possible. Honestly I'd say a properly badged beret is preferable to wearing a Brodie helmet in that role. Make sure you get a King's crown badge, the Queen's crown ones date from Elizabeth II's coronation in 1953. As far as smocks go, beware post war British or Belgian ones, the colours are very noticeably wrong. No sense buying something that's good enough "for now" and just having to spend more to replace it down the line.

Anyway, welcome aboard, and all I can say is, there is a wealth of information available out there in books and online, so research, research, research. There are a million small details. We'll be glad to answer any questions you have.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok thank you very much for the help and for clearing up any confusion I had
on living history and if I ever need ww2 impression advice this will be the first people(s) that I consult.

Thanks,Jake.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Airsoft Enthusiast wrote:
Hey, this is the unit I hope to join in the future and I was just curious to know
If the majority of the members wear berets or mk helmets and if it's prefered if you have a British smock camo jacket over others?

Sorry if these questions don't fit this topic.

Jake


A maroon beret and denison smock are acceptable for airsoft. Both can be found at WPG. www.onlinemilitaria.net

The WPG smock is a good buy for the price. The colour is a bit off when compared to originals and the more expensive reproductions. The WPG smock is the norm from what I have seen around here in airsoft and living history. Higher end reproductions go for >$250 CDN new.

One thing to keep in mind is resale value. Plenty of people are in and more or less out of this hobby in less than 3 years. Going in high end uber authentic is fine but just be aware that when you sell a used $250 smock you'll probably get $100 and if you sell a used WPG $135 smock you'll get about $60. Hobbyists like deals for repros ( hikishop anyone?) and even better deals for used reproductions.

Putting together an impression slowly while attending a few events and doing some research is a good idea. You' ll meet people that may have access to affordable kit. It should help with buying any unnecessary kit.

Just something to keep in mind.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok I understand, but at this moment I just have the wool battle dress
so I'm really trying to buy the essential things for my I'm impression but
yes there's definitely no rush to buying an impression all at once.. Even though that can be extremely tempting :)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can probably get away in games with your basic p37 webbing, ammo boots, gaiters, wool battle dress and a beret since games aren't that lenient depending on event level classification (http://www.ontarioairsoftwwiireenactors.com/event_level.html)

Helmets, sniper veils, entrenching tool, other small stuff are more or less optional. Like backspasm said wools are fine, as long you get the right patches.

Get your bare essentials and work your way up.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On that note where would be a good place to find proper unit badges/patches? I've got my battle dress so I thought that this might be a good next step.

Thanks for all the help really appreciate it, Jake
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.montyslocker.co.uk/

Tell us what unit you'd like to badge up as and we can tell you exactly what you'll need.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume the unit you want to re-enact is 1st can para since you said you want to join this unit in the near future.

http://militarytour.com/Reproductions/WW11/CdnBritish/Insignia/BritInsignia.htm (only has 1st can para badges)

Something local instead if you don't want to order overseas.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I'm very interested in joining the first Canadian para, and have
been searching for apropriate badges and I was able to find 1943 full webbing kit for
200$ from a private collecter, do you think this is a reasonable price?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends, what's included? If it comes with EVERYTHING, maybe:

-belt
-2 braces, including one with the slip for the other to thread through
-2 basic pouches (you'll want Mk III because otherwise Sten mags won't fit
-light respirator bag
-small pack with L-straps
-canteen carrier
-bayonet frog
-e-tool and carrier

If it includes the last item, that is a fairly good deal. E-tools and carriers are the rarest and most expensive items of the basic P37 infantry equipment. If not, I'd say look elsewhere unless you want to avoid the hassle and are prepared to pay.

Things you'll want to ask:

-sizes of the belt and braces. They came in different lengths, you'll want to make sure they'll fit.

-whether they are army tan/khaki...a fair amount of blue-grey RAF kit, postwar Belgian stuff, etc, is floating around, and not suitable.

-whether they have brass or blackened steel fittings. Only the brass is correct wartime issue.

Go to http://www.karkeeweb.com/1937main.html, it is a wealth of knowledge.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for insignia, here's what you'll need:

-Canadian Parachute Corps cap badge
-two Canadian parachute wings (distinct from the British ones), one for the battledress, one for the Denison
-2 1 Can Para shoulder flashes
-set of Bellerophon riding Pegasus divisional insignia
-2 Airborne Strips, blue/white on maroon
-4 yellow epaulette shoulder slips, 2 for BD, 2 for the Denison

Lads, am I missing anything? I don't have my reference material in front of me, did 1 Can Para have a lanyard as well?
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